ramus
06-19 05:53 PM
Do we have any action plan yet? What can we do to include amendments for us? Is this too late now and all we need to do is to oppose CIR?
I know everybody is busy with 485 and so am I but we need to react now before it is too late.
I know everybody is busy with 485 and so am I but we need to react now before it is too late.
ujjwal_p
02-16 03:02 PM
desi3933,
I didnt meant to ignore you. I was kind of busy yesterday so I couldnt reply to your message. Thanks a lot for correcting me and interpreting the text properly.
well I guess we are back to sqaure one.
Even though it can be legislative fix can we still have an action item? well... I dont know!
I think it's still fine. The fact that this was brought up by the Secretary in the action directive says that this has got good traction up top. People aren't getting their green cards any sooner with this. I think this plays into a territory which is actually quite non-controversial even if it needs to be taken from a legislative perspective. Also they maybe thinking of something else too. Who knows. They've seen the data; they know that people from India/China EB2/EB3 and EB3 ROW are seeing a long wait in front of them right now.
I didnt meant to ignore you. I was kind of busy yesterday so I couldnt reply to your message. Thanks a lot for correcting me and interpreting the text properly.
well I guess we are back to sqaure one.
Even though it can be legislative fix can we still have an action item? well... I dont know!
I think it's still fine. The fact that this was brought up by the Secretary in the action directive says that this has got good traction up top. People aren't getting their green cards any sooner with this. I think this plays into a territory which is actually quite non-controversial even if it needs to be taken from a legislative perspective. Also they maybe thinking of something else too. Who knows. They've seen the data; they know that people from India/China EB2/EB3 and EB3 ROW are seeing a long wait in front of them right now.
logiclife
09-19 04:52 PM
To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as illustrated here by a skeptic : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser DREAM Act because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser DREAM Act because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
santb1975
04-27 11:33 PM
Thanks all.
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sheela
06-26 02:59 PM
I don't know how to start a new post so place here....
I was working on a H1B.
Husband - who is the premary person applied for Green card. When his priority date was current he applied for I-485 for both of us.
After getting my EAD I started working on EAD for 1 month and got the paystubs for past one month. Now looking for new job.
Which status Am I - H1B or EAD...:confused:
Now If I am on EAD can I take a break for 3 months before the next job offer.
Thanks for your replys in advance....
Once you start working on EAD you are no more on H1B. Your future employer can apply for H1B for you. Your previous H1B is automatically 'abandoned' as you used EAD
I was working on a H1B.
Husband - who is the premary person applied for Green card. When his priority date was current he applied for I-485 for both of us.
After getting my EAD I started working on EAD for 1 month and got the paystubs for past one month. Now looking for new job.
Which status Am I - H1B or EAD...:confused:
Now If I am on EAD can I take a break for 3 months before the next job offer.
Thanks for your replys in advance....
Once you start working on EAD you are no more on H1B. Your future employer can apply for H1B for you. Your previous H1B is automatically 'abandoned' as you used EAD
amitjoey
05-30 07:05 PM
I wonder at what point of time this "three years of U.S. work experience" applies from. Is it that you should have 3 yrs exp when you applied for labor or is it when you apply for 485??
3 years experience period. It is an add on to the point system, if at all the amendment passes. At that point, there would not be any of the labor-140-485 process. You will be exempt from visa numbers, who knows what that system would be.
3 years experience period. It is an add on to the point system, if at all the amendment passes. At that point, there would not be any of the labor-140-485 process. You will be exempt from visa numbers, who knows what that system would be.
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gc_coming
01-12 06:19 PM
Hi All,
I got a notice from uscis on sept 24th stating that my 485 has been withdrawn as my previous employer withdrew my 140. I filed in july 2007 , and ported to a new job in April 2008. I filed an MTR on 24th Sept, but the status of the MTR is still received and pending. Its going to be 180 days since my 485 has been withdrawn on march 9th. And my lawyer is saying that i have to leave this country if we dont get the MTR accepted before 180 days.
Gurus could you please suggest some ideas on all possible steps that can be taken..
Thanks
I got a notice from uscis on sept 24th stating that my 485 has been withdrawn as my previous employer withdrew my 140. I filed in july 2007 , and ported to a new job in April 2008. I filed an MTR on 24th Sept, but the status of the MTR is still received and pending. Its going to be 180 days since my 485 has been withdrawn on march 9th. And my lawyer is saying that i have to leave this country if we dont get the MTR accepted before 180 days.
Gurus could you please suggest some ideas on all possible steps that can be taken..
Thanks
waitingGC
02-11 05:12 PM
This is really a very disappointing news. However, now we all know clearly that our issues are closely related to illegal alliens. We are on the same boat as that of illegals. CIR will probably take forever to happen. Maybe 2 to 3 years if we are lucky. My PD is just 3 months away (China EB2). I guess my PD will become current within 2 to 3 years even without immigration reform. I would not put my hope on this immigration reform now. I will just plan to wait for 2 to 3 years. It's kind of a relief for me.
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Libra
09-20 01:54 PM
hats off to you macaca and u da best.
Some people die at 25 and
aren't buried until 75
Benjamin Franklin
Some people die at 25 and
aren't buried until 75
Benjamin Franklin
Legal
07-05 04:30 PM
pass it around...it will make us forget our problems for a while
You never know.....:)
The key is to go through "Indian-Americans" who have gone thru this siht but are "Americans" now.
i AM smoking pot:p
You never know.....:)
The key is to go through "Indian-Americans" who have gone thru this siht but are "Americans" now.
i AM smoking pot:p
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sreenivaskk
05-23 11:45 PM
Thanks for your efforts.
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rklscp
05-25 11:50 PM
I think the issue of Economic Stimulus Package and H-4 dependents is losing the momentum. Where is everyone????
I agree ---- I think the momentum is slowing down...
at least can we not take any legal action for issuing out a rule (you can file MFS and get the stimuls and then amend MFJ) on 04/14/2008??? what about people who filed a long time ago as MFJ?? Because once you filed MFJ, the action is irrevocable!?! In my honest opinion, this stupidity of issuing out a clause the day before filing deadline deserves some "stir"!!
I agree ---- I think the momentum is slowing down...
at least can we not take any legal action for issuing out a rule (you can file MFS and get the stimuls and then amend MFJ) on 04/14/2008??? what about people who filed a long time ago as MFJ?? Because once you filed MFJ, the action is irrevocable!?! In my honest opinion, this stupidity of issuing out a clause the day before filing deadline deserves some "stir"!!
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anilsal
02-12 02:59 AM
Based on last week's BusinessWeek article, I have a feeling that we will see an effort to restrict initial H1B applications in some way. That would be a good opportunity to push for allowing naturalization applications for people who have been on work visas for a long time (say 8-10 yrs?). Fighting for citizenship would have a stronger emotional dimension and may connect better with the American public. A direct filing for citizenship will work around retrogression by providing an avenue for people to move out of the GC queue.
That would be nice. Citizenship for people who have been on visa and been in the country legally for a number of years. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
That would be nice. Citizenship for people who have been on visa and been in the country legally for a number of years. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
Caliber
05-17 03:23 PM
Please click on ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- Legislative Action Center (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/home/) - Team IV
Cool. It takes less than 5 minutes. Please forward this to all the friends.
Thank you Team IV.
Cool. It takes less than 5 minutes. Please forward this to all the friends.
Thank you Team IV.
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vxb2004
06-25 07:56 PM
Yesterday I received my approved EAD card in 25 days from date of application (paper filing) from TSC
spdy_mn
05-30 06:34 PM
would create a quota exemption for certain highly skilled immigrants who have at least three years of U.S. work experience.
That pretty much covers almost all of us in IV
That pretty much covers almost all of us in IV
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walking_dude
10-19 04:22 PM
SEE you guys Tommorrow.
Lets Rock, Yalgaar Ho and rest of the jazz.
Lets Rock, Yalgaar Ho and rest of the jazz.
yetanotherguyinline
04-28 03:29 PM
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hebron
06-15 07:05 AM
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
imneedy
07-17 08:16 PM
Everyone should have freedom of speech on a public forum.
Unless there are derogatory remarks directed towards a person or use of offensive language is a no-no, but then what is plain humor and what is offensive?
What is wrong with some one not agreeing to others? Only sheep walk in herds.
Disagreement should never be a reason to ban a person.
Expert from Spiderman -- "With great power come great responsibility!!"
Moderators please use power responsibly.
Unless there are derogatory remarks directed towards a person or use of offensive language is a no-no, but then what is plain humor and what is offensive?
What is wrong with some one not agreeing to others? Only sheep walk in herds.
Disagreement should never be a reason to ban a person.
Expert from Spiderman -- "With great power come great responsibility!!"
Moderators please use power responsibly.
GC_1000Watt
06-10 04:29 PM
Visa Bulletin for July 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5019.html)
Atlast..Some movement. :)
Atlast..Some movement. :)
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