black_logs
01-05 08:44 AM
Looks like PBEC is sending approvals for labors with PD in Jun'02. Comments!!
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bigboy007
06-03 01:40 AM
I have opened sep thread for the same , i am sorry if this is not acceptable policy of forum and i am reposting as this topic originated here:
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I have been following with different threads over articles of Susherman / AILA on abolishing Dual intent for H1B visa and very much , deeply curious about finding the same :
Since i myself new of all these different texts of various immigration laws it took me some time but i think i found out the nerve of it atlast.
Here it goes :
There are two important sections of Student visas.
this bill is carefully drafted against us [h1B and green card] such that this provision is included in student visas section.
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(c) CLARIFYING THE IMMIGRANT INTENT PROVISION.— Subsection (b) of
14 section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(b))
15 is amended—
16
17 (1) by striking the parenthetical phrase “(other than a
18 nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section
19 101(a)(15), and other than a nonimmigrant described in any
20 provision of section 101(a)(15)(H)(i) except subclause (b1) of
21 such section) " in the first sentence; and
22
23 (2) by striking “under section 101(a)(15)" and inserting in its
24 place “under the immigration laws.".
25
26 (d) GRANTING DUAL INTENT TO CERTAIN NONIMMIGRANT STUDENTS.—
27 Subsection (h) of section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act
28 (8 U.S.C. 1184(h)) is amended—
29
30 (1) by inserting “(F)(iv)," following “(H)(i)(b) or (c),"; and
31
32 (2) by striking “if the alien had obtained a change of status" and
33 inserting in its place “if the alien had been admitted as, provided
34 status as, or obtained a change of status";
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what does (c) in Student visas do :
214(b) of Immigration and Nationality Act : defines whether the applicant has an immigration intent or not and in general avoids , H , L , etc visas out of this category.
As stated in US code of Law this is what it is :
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"Every alien (other than a nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section 1101 (a)(15) of this title, and other than a nonimmigrant described in any provision of section 1101 (a)(15)(H)(i) of this title except subclause (b1) of such section) shall be presumed to be an immigrant until he establishes to the satisfaction of the consular officer, at the time of application for a visa, and the immigration officers, at the time of application for admission, that he is entitled to a nonimmigrant status under section 1101 (a)(15) of this title. An alien who is an officer or employee of any foreign government or of any international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities under the International Organizations Immunities Act [22 U.S.C. 288 et seq.], or an alien who is the attendant, servant, employee, or member of the immediate family of any such alien shall not be entitled to apply for or receive an immigrant visa, or to enter the United States as an immigrant unless he executes a written waiver in the same form and substance as is prescribed by section 1257 (b) of this title."
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By doing this (i.e. remove my Underlined and Bold letters) they making H1B prone to 214B clause and any CONSULAR officer can reject visa based on this statute as a H1B categorized as IMMIGRANT intent rather than earlier being non-immigrant.
Now i think this should not effect 485 or 140 or any immigration applications as still H1B holder is still categorized in DUAL Intent.
This is how : when (d) of the above Student visa section is applied this is how it turns :
This is from US code of rules pertaining to 8 U.S.C. 1184(h)
(h) Intention to abandon foreign residence
The fact that an alien is the beneficiary of an application for a preference status filed under section 1154 of this title or has otherwise sought permanent residence in the United States shall not constitute evidence of an intention to abandon a foreign residence for purposes of obtaining a visa as a nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (H)(i)(b) or (c),(F)(iv), (L), or (V) of section 1101 (a)(15) of this title or otherwise obtaining or maintaining the status of a nonimmigrant described in such subparagraph, if the alien had been admitted as, provided status as, or obtained a change of status under section 1258 of this title to a classification as such a nonimmigrant before the alien’s most recent departure from the United States.
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Section 1258 is nothing but Change of nonimmigrant classification which allows for change of status with in Non-immigrant visas.
based on all these , conclusion i see is : h1B visa can now be rejected ( if law passes and i wish , i pray and i am doing all my best it doesnt) under 214B for consular posts.
Still h1B is considered DUAL Intent as per above amendment as it doesnt remove 101 (a)(b) (H) as they are speciality workers that is we.
Please comment , i know i am not an immigration attorney with my knowledge i tried to relate things i am curious about this subject and i request all to comment on this and i feel i made a good judgment based on these resources i have please comment.
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But logically i also feel this H1B under 214B as doesnt logical for a person whose 140 is approved as in principle his intent of being Immigrant is approved.
================================================== =
I have been following with different threads over articles of Susherman / AILA on abolishing Dual intent for H1B visa and very much , deeply curious about finding the same :
Since i myself new of all these different texts of various immigration laws it took me some time but i think i found out the nerve of it atlast.
Here it goes :
There are two important sections of Student visas.
this bill is carefully drafted against us [h1B and green card] such that this provision is included in student visas section.
================================================== ====
(c) CLARIFYING THE IMMIGRANT INTENT PROVISION.— Subsection (b) of
14 section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(b))
15 is amended—
16
17 (1) by striking the parenthetical phrase “(other than a
18 nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section
19 101(a)(15), and other than a nonimmigrant described in any
20 provision of section 101(a)(15)(H)(i) except subclause (b1) of
21 such section) " in the first sentence; and
22
23 (2) by striking “under section 101(a)(15)" and inserting in its
24 place “under the immigration laws.".
25
26 (d) GRANTING DUAL INTENT TO CERTAIN NONIMMIGRANT STUDENTS.—
27 Subsection (h) of section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act
28 (8 U.S.C. 1184(h)) is amended—
29
30 (1) by inserting “(F)(iv)," following “(H)(i)(b) or (c),"; and
31
32 (2) by striking “if the alien had obtained a change of status" and
33 inserting in its place “if the alien had been admitted as, provided
34 status as, or obtained a change of status";
================================================== =====
what does (c) in Student visas do :
214(b) of Immigration and Nationality Act : defines whether the applicant has an immigration intent or not and in general avoids , H , L , etc visas out of this category.
As stated in US code of Law this is what it is :
================================================== ======
"Every alien (other than a nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section 1101 (a)(15) of this title, and other than a nonimmigrant described in any provision of section 1101 (a)(15)(H)(i) of this title except subclause (b1) of such section) shall be presumed to be an immigrant until he establishes to the satisfaction of the consular officer, at the time of application for a visa, and the immigration officers, at the time of application for admission, that he is entitled to a nonimmigrant status under section 1101 (a)(15) of this title. An alien who is an officer or employee of any foreign government or of any international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities under the International Organizations Immunities Act [22 U.S.C. 288 et seq.], or an alien who is the attendant, servant, employee, or member of the immediate family of any such alien shall not be entitled to apply for or receive an immigrant visa, or to enter the United States as an immigrant unless he executes a written waiver in the same form and substance as is prescribed by section 1257 (b) of this title."
================================================== ======
By doing this (i.e. remove my Underlined and Bold letters) they making H1B prone to 214B clause and any CONSULAR officer can reject visa based on this statute as a H1B categorized as IMMIGRANT intent rather than earlier being non-immigrant.
Now i think this should not effect 485 or 140 or any immigration applications as still H1B holder is still categorized in DUAL Intent.
This is how : when (d) of the above Student visa section is applied this is how it turns :
This is from US code of rules pertaining to 8 U.S.C. 1184(h)
(h) Intention to abandon foreign residence
The fact that an alien is the beneficiary of an application for a preference status filed under section 1154 of this title or has otherwise sought permanent residence in the United States shall not constitute evidence of an intention to abandon a foreign residence for purposes of obtaining a visa as a nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (H)(i)(b) or (c),(F)(iv), (L), or (V) of section 1101 (a)(15) of this title or otherwise obtaining or maintaining the status of a nonimmigrant described in such subparagraph, if the alien had been admitted as, provided status as, or obtained a change of status under section 1258 of this title to a classification as such a nonimmigrant before the alien’s most recent departure from the United States.
================================================== ======
Section 1258 is nothing but Change of nonimmigrant classification which allows for change of status with in Non-immigrant visas.
based on all these , conclusion i see is : h1B visa can now be rejected ( if law passes and i wish , i pray and i am doing all my best it doesnt) under 214B for consular posts.
Still h1B is considered DUAL Intent as per above amendment as it doesnt remove 101 (a)(b) (H) as they are speciality workers that is we.
Please comment , i know i am not an immigration attorney with my knowledge i tried to relate things i am curious about this subject and i request all to comment on this and i feel i made a good judgment based on these resources i have please comment.
----------------------
But logically i also feel this H1B under 214B as doesnt logical for a person whose 140 is approved as in principle his intent of being Immigrant is approved.
gcformeornot
11-08 04:56 PM
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indyanguy
11-05 08:11 PM
So far lot of discussions on how to start LLC/Inc
but how to start a company without changing current status
Here is my status:
My wife and I are on H1 and we got our EAD's now the question are:-
My wife remains on her H1 for safe....until we get GC.
Is it possible me to stay on H1 and start a LLC using my EAD to do a parttime business ?
Please provide Pros and cons if any.....
Thanks
According to some lawyers, once you start using your EAD for either full time or part time work, your H1 is invalidated
but how to start a company without changing current status
Here is my status:
My wife and I are on H1 and we got our EAD's now the question are:-
My wife remains on her H1 for safe....until we get GC.
Is it possible me to stay on H1 and start a LLC using my EAD to do a parttime business ?
Please provide Pros and cons if any.....
Thanks
According to some lawyers, once you start using your EAD for either full time or part time work, your H1 is invalidated
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sheela
08-13 04:53 PM
Signature has all relevant information.
Congrats: I feel better after seeing your posting. Mine too was received by R William at 7.55 on 7/2. May be it is on way too
Congrats: I feel better after seeing your posting. Mine too was received by R William at 7.55 on 7/2. May be it is on way too
bestofall
03-02 05:50 PM
I go to India atleast once every year and I agree that the urban infrastructure has changed a lot. But, such a change has created overcrowding in major cities which has lead to heavy pollution, rocketing inflation, high cost of living, and what not. You can get anything you want - best education, best food, best best best .... if you can afford.
During one of the trips couple of years back I did a casual interview at a huge software giant in Chennai just to guage how well I will fit. This was for a programming job in C++. Interview was rookie, intrerviewer was surprised why I want to come back because people actually seek such companies as route to US or UK and also made me feel that I may not be satisfied with the job if he has to offer.
So here is the thing. If you want to go back and lead a good life - I think it is a good idea provided you have very good education and experience and you get into the league of executives or you want to set up some booming business.
If you want to go back and work at a managerial level - you may not find things that interesting because of the affordibnility factor.
It is totally upto you to decide. If you look at urban infrastructure, India is developing, but in my opinion, the only way India can develop as a nation is by bringing about a change from the grassroots - change in beliefs, politics, innovations, products , hygene, uniform standards of living etc....
Well said Chandu !
During one of the trips couple of years back I did a casual interview at a huge software giant in Chennai just to guage how well I will fit. This was for a programming job in C++. Interview was rookie, intrerviewer was surprised why I want to come back because people actually seek such companies as route to US or UK and also made me feel that I may not be satisfied with the job if he has to offer.
So here is the thing. If you want to go back and lead a good life - I think it is a good idea provided you have very good education and experience and you get into the league of executives or you want to set up some booming business.
If you want to go back and work at a managerial level - you may not find things that interesting because of the affordibnility factor.
It is totally upto you to decide. If you look at urban infrastructure, India is developing, but in my opinion, the only way India can develop as a nation is by bringing about a change from the grassroots - change in beliefs, politics, innovations, products , hygene, uniform standards of living etc....
Well said Chandu !
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royus77
07-17 11:23 PM
Given That All Dates Are Now Current And There Will Be Hundreds Of I-485 Filings By August 17, Will The Uscis Process Them In Order Of The Original Labor Cert Priority Date Or The Date Of Receipt Of The I-485 Filing Itself?
Only on PD when the date is current
Only on PD when the date is current
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kumar1
08-20 11:28 PM
Missouri story - I was sent home by DMV office, reason, I was not carrying my latest Pay stubs. I hate these Midwestern states...they were sleeping before 9/11 and suddenly woke up and squeezed their asses. Can you imagine, ignorant DMV in Missouri gave me DL on B1/B2 visa in 2000? I showed them Passport as proof#1 and US visa as proof#2 and ignorant officer said...you are good to go! Now 7 years later, it is written in bold over there....
ONLY US CITIZENS walk away with DMV, rest everyone go through USCIS.
Just like in a desi shop in arm pit state New Jersey I saw this..."IN GOD WE TRUST, REST EVERYONE PAY CASH"
I knew I will have issues with DMV so I paid extra 1000 to get H1B premium and retained my privilege to drive. Believe me guys....this is America.....spend more...save more!
ONLY US CITIZENS walk away with DMV, rest everyone go through USCIS.
Just like in a desi shop in arm pit state New Jersey I saw this..."IN GOD WE TRUST, REST EVERYONE PAY CASH"
I knew I will have issues with DMV so I paid extra 1000 to get H1B premium and retained my privilege to drive. Believe me guys....this is America.....spend more...save more!
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Desichakit
07-11 09:51 AM
This appears to be half the battle won for EB2 as it has to translated into actual approval. Also we must be mindfull of EB3 retrogression and must not lose sight of it in this Euphoria.
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sam_hoosier
01-03 04:06 PM
I plan on staying here for 5 more years and then I am going back - GC or no GC ;)
After having lived in the US for 8 yrs, I still find myself craving for all things Indian - food, grocery, music, friends, movies, TV channels etc.
For me GC is just a convenience which will allow me to change jobs and hopefully get to the level that I should have if I had not been stuck because of the H1B.
My kids are US citizens and they are free to come back & study/work/live here when they are old enough to make that decision.
To go back after having managed to get here was a tough decision to make, but the whole retrogression thing has made it easier for me.
After having lived in the US for 8 yrs, I still find myself craving for all things Indian - food, grocery, music, friends, movies, TV channels etc.
For me GC is just a convenience which will allow me to change jobs and hopefully get to the level that I should have if I had not been stuck because of the H1B.
My kids are US citizens and they are free to come back & study/work/live here when they are old enough to make that decision.
To go back after having managed to get here was a tough decision to make, but the whole retrogression thing has made it easier for me.
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EndlessWait
12-15 09:29 PM
its been stuck at 2001 for so many years , except for 2007 july bulletin fiasco.
with the way things are , it can take 10 more years for EB3 to even get to 2005. Lets try and push for something which works in this country.
Buy a house get a GC! rule for EB applicants.
with the way things are , it can take 10 more years for EB3 to even get to 2005. Lets try and push for something which works in this country.
Buy a house get a GC! rule for EB applicants.
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sameet
02-18 05:36 PM
I am seeing a lot of folks predicting the EB2 dates. And I believe they are right in doing so since that is their filign category. What I am asking is if there are any prediction regarding EB3-I. The dates are not moving at all which is absolutely frustating.
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darslee
07-05 11:53 PM
Guys...digg this one religously..
For the first time one article connects our needs to what Americans are interested in; Homeland security.
Dugg and sent her an email thanking her and suggesting a follow up article on practical consequencies of their "mix-up". Used my case of Aging out son as an example.
For the first time one article connects our needs to what Americans are interested in; Homeland security.
Dugg and sent her an email thanking her and suggesting a follow up article on practical consequencies of their "mix-up". Used my case of Aging out son as an example.
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Green.Tech
06-11 03:00 PM
Here is a small contribution from me today.
$25 check made out to IV - 6/11/08
Placed in mail to IV - 6/12/08.
Thanks!
Come on people...looking for more HEROES!
$25 check made out to IV - 6/11/08
Placed in mail to IV - 6/12/08.
Thanks!
Come on people...looking for more HEROES!
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BharatPremi
11-09 02:12 PM
Thanks to the glorious service of the Atlanta center :mad: I missed the I-485 bus by 7 days( Labor cleared on Aug end ). Many people with later PD's got cleared from the Chicago PERM center . Now I just watch as all members get their EAD's and AP's while I wait with nothing but hope and watch legislation after legislation fail in the senate and house , and the letters flying all over the place .
I remember my past by reading your sad story. Though I had different cause for my tragedy. In Year 2000 November my then employer filed RIR labor and I got approval in January 12th 2001 and Same day HR filed my I-140. On January 22nd during companywide mass lay off I was slashed.. Again go through one more lay off in year 2002 with different employer and still waiting for GC(After filing 4th application in year 2003, Rotting in PBEC for almost 4 years)... Best Luck to you.
I remember my past by reading your sad story. Though I had different cause for my tragedy. In Year 2000 November my then employer filed RIR labor and I got approval in January 12th 2001 and Same day HR filed my I-140. On January 22nd during companywide mass lay off I was slashed.. Again go through one more lay off in year 2002 with different employer and still waiting for GC(After filing 4th application in year 2003, Rotting in PBEC for almost 4 years)... Best Luck to you.
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priti8888
07-23 06:34 PM
I think you are unnecessarily suspecting her posting. Retrogression kicked in Oct 2005 bulletin. So it is possible for her to apply in Feb 2005. I know for sure some people got their GC with similar priority dates. I think this whole immigration crap is turning everyone into cynical.
Thx!
Correction:-
My RD IS DEC 04 and I got Ead in feb 05...Mixed up the dates-Sorry!
Thx!
Correction:-
My RD IS DEC 04 and I got Ead in feb 05...Mixed up the dates-Sorry!
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09-12 12:54 PM
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saiju
07-21 02:43 AM
Any possibility for getting this amendment again, so that the core members can make an action plan on this.
Also is there any chance for new amendment like this in the near future.
Also is there any chance for new amendment like this in the near future.
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sledge_hammer
04-17 02:20 PM
H4+ I-485 pending still is a valid status. Now what rules they have regarding approving the loan to someone who is not working (because of H4 status) is something I am unaware of and not immigration related, I guess.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
Thank you Mr. Hammer.
My question was about H4 + 485 pending? Then what is the status? I have earlier given EAD, but they did not accept that. I am submitting 485 receipt with A#. Let me see how it goes.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
Thank you Mr. Hammer.
My question was about H4 + 485 pending? Then what is the status? I have earlier given EAD, but they did not accept that. I am submitting 485 receipt with A#. Let me see how it goes.
sbharatham
07-18 10:00 PM
Contributed $100 just now adding to earlier 100+50.
Will contribute more.
IV has proved they are working hard behind the scenes with the July bulletin reversal Success.
Now its our turn as members to support them by contributing as much as you can !!!
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Will contribute more.
IV has proved they are working hard behind the scenes with the July bulletin reversal Success.
Now its our turn as members to support them by contributing as much as you can !!!
Order Details - Jul 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT
Google Order #156751256110014
wa_Saiprasad
07-20 08:32 PM
I guess the person who created this thread didn't anything else to do on this world. I don't how did he/she come with number. What a waste of time.
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