Libra
09-10 04:32 PM
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Wendyzhu77
07-22 03:00 PM
Just don't understand why people are still arguing about the number. The cold hard fact is: uscis processes 1M~2M EAD every year in the past few years. Please refer to one previous post for this info. With this existing load and the existing work force to handle this load, even 750K new application wouldn't be a overwhelming load, say, original 2 months waiting to now 3 months waiting.
Also, even this 750k new EAD number is questionable, as lots of people already explained. E.g., before July 17, only 55k 485 were received in total. That certainly doesn't sound well to add up to 750k.
Guys,
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
Also, even this 750k new EAD number is questionable, as lots of people already explained. E.g., before July 17, only 55k 485 were received in total. That certainly doesn't sound well to add up to 750k.
Guys,
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
vjkypally
07-21 08:29 AM
Bring our issues in front of Ombudsman with the kind of time line we expect and let him take it up with the Govt.
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ArkBird
09-15 04:21 PM
Did you check the grammar of your polling question?
I support this. But might to be able to help with the fee
If this is EB2, I am glad/proud/honor to be EB3
:)
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
I support this. But might to be able to help with the fee
If this is EB2, I am glad/proud/honor to be EB3
:)
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
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Libra
09-14 01:46 PM
bump
crystal
09-11 07:30 PM
dont get confused . i am on ur side :DI am confused by your post.. who's side are you on? :D
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JaisGCQuest
06-23 05:17 PM
Hi..
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
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Libra
07-06 03:43 PM
You might be senior member than me, i may not post my comments more offenly, i just read what others are saying. Even i dont mean to disrespect you, and whatever i said below is not to offend you. I hope you understand
I don't mean to disrespect you but I guess you are going too far with your words. [COLOR="Black"]We are with IV much before you born.[/COLOR...really core born in 1970's i cant beleive that]. ok so do not dare teach us what we should be doing, with your 49 posts there are many who had 200 to 300 posts but dont say a sensible word
Now back to your comments. You seem to be lost in some dreamy world. What do you mean by just accept the application, so that you can save yourself from loosing money. Do you worry about your GC/EAD or saving your money. From your posts it look like you are more interested in getting your money back than the eligibility to file for EAD.
this is not my agenda, and by the way am not asking USCIS to give back my money which i paid in fees, i have that much sense, if they dont accept my app then they dont draw my money. first read my post properly and then comment and am not living in any dream, when USCIS can do anything they can do this one too. and this is my opinion not IV's. I made that comment because many of them discouraging other by -ve talk
I'm sure IV does not agree with you and that's not the IV goal. Focus is on to make USCIS accept what they promise and that is accepting the applications files on July for AOS.
What you are trying to do is twist your own agenda of getting your money back by making it as an IV goal. It's not a bad thing to save money or asking the money back from USCIS, which you anyway going to get when they reject your application and send your check back. As far as attorney's fees are concerned, lot of attorney's are going to refile without any charge or for some additional meagre fees.
Now the decision is yours, whether you want to get your money or you want the eligibility to file for EAD/GC/AP.
I don't mean to disrespect you but I guess you are going too far with your words. [COLOR="Black"]We are with IV much before you born.[/COLOR...really core born in 1970's i cant beleive that]. ok so do not dare teach us what we should be doing, with your 49 posts there are many who had 200 to 300 posts but dont say a sensible word
Now back to your comments. You seem to be lost in some dreamy world. What do you mean by just accept the application, so that you can save yourself from loosing money. Do you worry about your GC/EAD or saving your money. From your posts it look like you are more interested in getting your money back than the eligibility to file for EAD.
this is not my agenda, and by the way am not asking USCIS to give back my money which i paid in fees, i have that much sense, if they dont accept my app then they dont draw my money. first read my post properly and then comment and am not living in any dream, when USCIS can do anything they can do this one too. and this is my opinion not IV's. I made that comment because many of them discouraging other by -ve talk
I'm sure IV does not agree with you and that's not the IV goal. Focus is on to make USCIS accept what they promise and that is accepting the applications files on July for AOS.
What you are trying to do is twist your own agenda of getting your money back by making it as an IV goal. It's not a bad thing to save money or asking the money back from USCIS, which you anyway going to get when they reject your application and send your check back. As far as attorney's fees are concerned, lot of attorney's are going to refile without any charge or for some additional meagre fees.
Now the decision is yours, whether you want to get your money or you want the eligibility to file for EAD/GC/AP.
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reedandbamboo
09-11 10:07 PM
Every visa bulletin there is some information of the coming months processing that needs to be interpreted. The Oct 08 bulletin talks about the following:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4357.html
E. EMPLOYMENT VISA AVAILABILITY
Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined. It is estimated that the FY-2009 Employment-based annual limit will be very close to the 140,000 minimum.
Correct me if I'm wrong, BUT it was not until 2005 that the backlogs started to appear (owing to introduction of PERM?). What the hell have they been doing from 2005 until now?!!! WHY don't they still have a friggin' clue as to the number of cases in their system?
DAMN SLACKERS I SAY!!
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4357.html
E. EMPLOYMENT VISA AVAILABILITY
Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined. It is estimated that the FY-2009 Employment-based annual limit will be very close to the 140,000 minimum.
Correct me if I'm wrong, BUT it was not until 2005 that the backlogs started to appear (owing to introduction of PERM?). What the hell have they been doing from 2005 until now?!!! WHY don't they still have a friggin' clue as to the number of cases in their system?
DAMN SLACKERS I SAY!!
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paskal
09-30 04:07 PM
USCIS can process recaptured numbers. If 200k numbers are in one year USCIS will plan for 200k numbers in that year.In 2000 they processed more applications after a immigration reform. One way of preventing wastage is plan to process all the applications in 11 months. If any unused numbers can be processed in that one month.
if they give green cards for sucking up?
and by your usual logic, why can't they plan for 140,000 every year? they know in advance don't they? there has been a year in which almost half the green cards were wasted- look it up yourself- the fact remains that they waste every year and it is useless to expect that they will suddenly and consistently do much more than is being asked now. unless...something changes...
just for my info do you find anything at all wrong with the whole process? or are we just misguided fools that you are here to educate?
if they give green cards for sucking up?
and by your usual logic, why can't they plan for 140,000 every year? they know in advance don't they? there has been a year in which almost half the green cards were wasted- look it up yourself- the fact remains that they waste every year and it is useless to expect that they will suddenly and consistently do much more than is being asked now. unless...something changes...
just for my info do you find anything at all wrong with the whole process? or are we just misguided fools that you are here to educate?
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NKR
06-25 11:47 AM
When a guy comes to US for education the average age is around 23 - 24 years. MS completed by 25. Most guys at that time have burning desire to do something new and innovative (either in job or starting own business).
And then you lose your libido :). Agreed�. With the delay you lose the golden period in your career and end up at a lower level. Most of the self made millionaires rockstarted young when they had the drive and desire. I still say America gains more than what they lose by delaying GC process. If they hand out GCs faster then who will work for those millionaires and billionaires?.
And then you lose your libido :). Agreed�. With the delay you lose the golden period in your career and end up at a lower level. Most of the self made millionaires rockstarted young when they had the drive and desire. I still say America gains more than what they lose by delaying GC process. If they hand out GCs faster then who will work for those millionaires and billionaires?.
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akhilmahajan
10-24 05:32 PM
Same with me, have been getting red dots. But red dots should not deter us.
People giving us Red Dots for our efforts means we are doing a good job in our efforts.
People who are lazy or just don't understand the magnitude of the problem, will do nothing except giving red dots.
So, lets keep on going with this campaign full steam.
GO I/WE GO.
People giving us Red Dots for our efforts means we are doing a good job in our efforts.
People who are lazy or just don't understand the magnitude of the problem, will do nothing except giving red dots.
So, lets keep on going with this campaign full steam.
GO I/WE GO.
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red200
12-11 03:37 PM
Hi Pappu and IV seniors,
I will contribute to IV generously(monetory and otherwise) if you help us with the prefiling of EAD for approved 140's, atleast USCIS will get money from us every year and it helps us too ...................
Yes if this is one of IV's agenda . I will contribute as generously as possible
I will contribute to IV generously(monetory and otherwise) if you help us with the prefiling of EAD for approved 140's, atleast USCIS will get money from us every year and it helps us too ...................
Yes if this is one of IV's agenda . I will contribute as generously as possible
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rajuram
12-18 02:09 PM
I have been wanting to post this for the last few days and was happy to read this thread.........can we do something like an Immigrant's Boycott Day or something where we should do a mass boycott all over the country.....we need to coordinate this across the entire country and do a gandhi style protest.....but we need atleast maybe 1000 people per city to do it.....I am not sure how difficult it is to get that many people.....but that seems to be the only way to create an Impact.......WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR EMPLOYERS FEEL THE IMPACT OF NOT HAVING US FOREIGN WORKERS.....THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS EXPLOITATION........its like when all the mexican farmers stopped working on the strawberry farms.....there were no strawberries in the market....I am in the Detroit, MI area.... we need to come up with a list of big cities where we can get 1000 people per city.
Hit them where it hurts the most.
I do not agree with ideas such as this one. We have to be careful not to attract any negative publicity. It is all about perceptions, lets not add to all the negative attitude towards aliens.
Hit them where it hurts the most.
I do not agree with ideas such as this one. We have to be careful not to attract any negative publicity. It is all about perceptions, lets not add to all the negative attitude towards aliens.
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reddymjm
01-06 10:40 AM
At least I know 3 or 4 universities in around MI and OH. They have only online classes and on Sunday. It allows most of the students to take their classes that way. The rest 6 days they can work any where and make money and pay the university. One of the universities has 90% of the students from one of the small countries adjacent to India.
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leoindiano
06-11 09:19 AM
i dont agree with you, These things are against the law.
1)
All we need is a recapture. Lets concentrate on the bills in congress and senate and get them passed. This needs very less effort than what you prescribed.
2) If 1 fails,
There is no descrimination as such, this is more of a outdated law and bureacratic delay caused wastage of numbers, lets fight it in legal system. Some asylum case won against wastage, why not ours? We have big numbers, If everyone can contribute, this will happen. Hire the same lawyer and am sure he/she wont charge more than what(if any) they charged to an asylum case....
1)
All we need is a recapture. Lets concentrate on the bills in congress and senate and get them passed. This needs very less effort than what you prescribed.
2) If 1 fails,
There is no descrimination as such, this is more of a outdated law and bureacratic delay caused wastage of numbers, lets fight it in legal system. Some asylum case won against wastage, why not ours? We have big numbers, If everyone can contribute, this will happen. Hire the same lawyer and am sure he/she wont charge more than what(if any) they charged to an asylum case....
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NolaIndian32
06-11 01:40 PM
Here is a small contribution from me today.
$25 check made out to IV - 6/11/08
Placed in mail to IV - 6/12/08.
$25 check made out to IV - 6/11/08
Placed in mail to IV - 6/12/08.
h_shaik
09-28 06:45 PM
If the information is correct and authentic can IV make a complient to Zoe Lofgren who played significant role in July 2007 Visal bulletin fiasco. I hope she might respond in the similar way.
Oh Law Firm Update :
09/28/2007: Depressing News for the Year-End Backend 485 Delays and Potential Waste of Visa Numbers for FY 2007
Unconfirmed sources indicate that two days before the end of FY 2007, there may be a substantial number of 485 applications for which visa numbers are available but have yet to be adjudicated, indicating that some visa numbers could be wasted this year. We know that the Service Centers have been working day and night and did not have enough resources to deal with the crisis which was brought about by the recent Visa Bulletin fiasco. We just hope for the better new fiscal year that will start from October 1, 2007.
Oh Law Firm Update :
09/28/2007: Depressing News for the Year-End Backend 485 Delays and Potential Waste of Visa Numbers for FY 2007
Unconfirmed sources indicate that two days before the end of FY 2007, there may be a substantial number of 485 applications for which visa numbers are available but have yet to be adjudicated, indicating that some visa numbers could be wasted this year. We know that the Service Centers have been working day and night and did not have enough resources to deal with the crisis which was brought about by the recent Visa Bulletin fiasco. We just hope for the better new fiscal year that will start from October 1, 2007.
ashutrip
06-19 07:48 AM
I agree. Email and call below dol personnnel as well.
Tom Coyne on 312.596.5435.
E-mail : coyne.tom@dol.gov
Any trend of certifications of backlogged applications?
Tom Coyne on 312.596.5435.
E-mail : coyne.tom@dol.gov
Any trend of certifications of backlogged applications?
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