alias
11-10 04:50 PM
Are we/employees really supposed to know all the steps involved in the approval of GC process (Perm, 140/EAD/485 etc.)?
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don’t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc….they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don’t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I agree we are not suppose to know the details and that's exactly why we have attorneys. HR follows intructions from their attorneys on immigration matters. I work for one of the BIG three in Detroit. I had no clue about PD related laws and stuff; it's my attorney who pointed it out to my HR and my HR came to me and said you need to talk to so and so (attorney), you have a special case....
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don’t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc….they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don’t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I agree we are not suppose to know the details and that's exactly why we have attorneys. HR follows intructions from their attorneys on immigration matters. I work for one of the BIG three in Detroit. I had no clue about PD related laws and stuff; it's my attorney who pointed it out to my HR and my HR came to me and said you need to talk to so and so (attorney), you have a special case....
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sledge_hammer
03-06 10:48 AM
There is an effor already is progress -
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
BTW I am up for $25 if there is an agreement to go with this request.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
BTW I am up for $25 if there is an agreement to go with this request.
raidohri
05-30 09:57 PM
Please do send the fax to all senators, if you have not send the webfax to all senators, please do so now
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inskrish
09-21 08:47 PM
Thank you for your honest opinion.
1) totally understandable
2) I don't think there was any core member yelling, just a bunch of enthusiastic supporters. But I appreciate the feedback and understand the frustration. It takes different things to motivate different people, which is why I am looking for real feedback to improve moving forward. I'm sure you understand, politely asking once or twice many not get through the flurry of daily posts that happen on this board :)
3) That's good to know! There is a lot of work to do moving forward. I would suggest your joining your local chapter if you haven't done so already. If you don't have a local chapter - step up and make one! Which leads me to...
Core chaps and chapesses - I think it would a good idea to overhaul links on the navigation pages to reflect up to date contact members and chapter information.
Hi Franklin,
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
1) totally understandable
2) I don't think there was any core member yelling, just a bunch of enthusiastic supporters. But I appreciate the feedback and understand the frustration. It takes different things to motivate different people, which is why I am looking for real feedback to improve moving forward. I'm sure you understand, politely asking once or twice many not get through the flurry of daily posts that happen on this board :)
3) That's good to know! There is a lot of work to do moving forward. I would suggest your joining your local chapter if you haven't done so already. If you don't have a local chapter - step up and make one! Which leads me to...
Core chaps and chapesses - I think it would a good idea to overhaul links on the navigation pages to reflect up to date contact members and chapter information.
Hi Franklin,
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
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vivid_bharti
07-27 04:00 PM
Guys, I just checked my bank statement and it seems they have cashed the check for mine & my spouses fees, but haven't cashed the check for my Son's AP renewal. I am already wondering what's coming in mail....They'll never let you sit in peace...
USCIS's moto : strip them to the last penny then drag them to their last breath
USCIS's moto : strip them to the last penny then drag them to their last breath
sunny1000
07-01 03:46 PM
Looks like the call volume has gone down considerably in the past few days. Those who have not called yet, please call asap and ask your family/friends to call as well.
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prasadn
03-05 12:10 AM
Guys,,
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
Probably we should aim to get 200 people to contribute $25 each....if we get 100 people in the next two weeks, we can at least get USCIS started on this. I am ready to contribute $25.
Thanks,
Prasad
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
Probably we should aim to get 200 people to contribute $25 each....if we get 100 people in the next two weeks, we can at least get USCIS started on this. I am ready to contribute $25.
Thanks,
Prasad
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brb2
11-08 09:04 AM
I heard Nancy say she would get started with some legislation that both parties and president agrees and she mentioned CIR. I think, if the republicans are smart they will quickly pass a version of it that they still can control - during the lame duck session when the old house returns for a few days.
But the biggest new problem will be suedo retrogression due to bottlenecks at Service centers! so near yet so far!
But the biggest new problem will be suedo retrogression due to bottlenecks at Service centers! so near yet so far!
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bestia
07-18 03:07 AM
... I have seen a few threads in the past where someone stuck in BEC was just venting and then ppl come along and tell them to "be happy for others". I don't get it....
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
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billu
08-06 02:07 PM
[QUOTE=jsb;617617]Fun apart, if you feel comfortable that you can find a job of your liking, and you believe your background will qualify you for a PR, consider Canada. It is a good place to live. You never miss home there. I am a Cdn citizen and have lived there for many years. Most likley I'll return back to Canada when I decide to retire. I know at least one person, who after living in the US for 11 yrs and unsuccessful in getting a GC, chose to make Canada his home, hoping to be there just for 3 yrs (needed to be a citizen), and then return to the US on TN permit. He has been in Canada for 8 yrs, and does not want to consider to move to the US any more.
Canada has a bit slower life, but is better socially and people are friendlier. It has less professional opportunities, lower pay and more tax. Yet, overall I think Canada is a better place to live. Why am I in the US? Purely for professional reasons. I visit Canada quite frequently, which I consider as my home.[/QUOTE
ya i think its a good option.....i dont mind the lower pay and more tax.......it will b much better than india........atleast i'll have peace of mind with PR as compared to uncertain wait in US
Canada has a bit slower life, but is better socially and people are friendlier. It has less professional opportunities, lower pay and more tax. Yet, overall I think Canada is a better place to live. Why am I in the US? Purely for professional reasons. I visit Canada quite frequently, which I consider as my home.[/QUOTE
ya i think its a good option.....i dont mind the lower pay and more tax.......it will b much better than india........atleast i'll have peace of mind with PR as compared to uncertain wait in US
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Alien
02-09 10:28 PM
Shouldnt this be promoted as an IV action item?Can we setup a webfax?
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raju123
02-11 11:30 AM
I know, what you said and I agree as well. It is universal truth that every one has priority. We know the science experimental story:
Monkey mother and her small kid were trap inside the water tank and water is slowly rise. Mother took care of her kid and hold to her belly. Water further rose and she hold her kid to chest. water further rose and she hold kid on her head. Now water come to her nose and she tried to stand on her toe. Still water was rising and finally she threw her kid and stand on her and tried to survive.
Moral of the story:
Compete America is pushing H1B/EB together but when they will have only one to select, they will go for H1B. I don't see any thing wrong on it.
Think that If IV have only one choice between EB provision and H1B. What IV will select?
I know CA promotes both , but issue is whether they do that equally.
I have a feeling h1b is more on agenda.
Just that you belive what they are saying....either way u will see when h1b gets increased without eb reform.
Monkey mother and her small kid were trap inside the water tank and water is slowly rise. Mother took care of her kid and hold to her belly. Water further rose and she hold her kid to chest. water further rose and she hold kid on her head. Now water come to her nose and she tried to stand on her toe. Still water was rising and finally she threw her kid and stand on her and tried to survive.
Moral of the story:
Compete America is pushing H1B/EB together but when they will have only one to select, they will go for H1B. I don't see any thing wrong on it.
Think that If IV have only one choice between EB provision and H1B. What IV will select?
I know CA promotes both , but issue is whether they do that equally.
I have a feeling h1b is more on agenda.
Just that you belive what they are saying....either way u will see when h1b gets increased without eb reform.
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h4_optimist
01-08 05:49 PM
H1B visa is meant to be for people with skills that are in shortage in the US. If any H4 feels that he/she should be able to work, he/she should get a H1B. I agree that it may be difficult for some H4s to find a sponsorer for H1B, because their skills are not in shortage in the US.
Some spouses may join their H1B counterparts in the US, with an expectation that they will eventually get the GC and will be able to work, no matter what their skill set is. This is a reasonable expectation. So, blame the retrogression.
I do not believe that H4s should ever be allowed to work. They just take away jobs of more skilled workers who are unable to get H1Bs and who are still in their home countries trying for one. Skill-less free riders!
Now, please don't bash me with counter arguments!! ;)
After making such a harsh statement as above,"I do not believe that H4s should ever be allowed to work", I wonder whether you have your spouse with you in the US. If yes, you are not compassionate about their situation.
The L2 visa people were able to get EAD, not only because their spouses had good influence, but also because they showed respect to their spouses , who compromised their career, to travel with them to the United States, while they were chasing the dream.
If you do not know the meaning of compromise, and mutual respect, there is no point in running a campaign like this for the welfare of immigrants.
How can you totally ignore the plights, of H4 people, and run a campaign like this for green card. I believe that it is pure selfishness if you do the same. I mean maybe you are not married, or may be you and your lucky spouse, may be the one who didnt have to fight for any H1B lottery while in H4 and to make the tough choice of being with your spouse or losing the career. If being lucky in your life is the reason of making such harsh comment, without even understanding others problem, then I just want to advice that luck is a very tricky thing, and may be you will also face issues in this foreign land for which you might not get any support.
Also, dnt just assume that just because you got your H1, you and your friends outside the US are smarter than the H4 people. Some of us also had an enviable career back home and which is respected through out the world, but made the compromise as we cared about the career of our spouses in the US.
Also I heard people saying in this thread, if H4 people are smart, get H1 and that is the rule and we cannot change it. What about the H1 Lottery? I thought this entire group is for bringing in postive reforms to the current law. If not why dnt we wait for GC for 10 years. That is the house rule and we need to follow it!
With people like you in this group, I feel dissappointed support this cause.
Some spouses may join their H1B counterparts in the US, with an expectation that they will eventually get the GC and will be able to work, no matter what their skill set is. This is a reasonable expectation. So, blame the retrogression.
I do not believe that H4s should ever be allowed to work. They just take away jobs of more skilled workers who are unable to get H1Bs and who are still in their home countries trying for one. Skill-less free riders!
Now, please don't bash me with counter arguments!! ;)
After making such a harsh statement as above,"I do not believe that H4s should ever be allowed to work", I wonder whether you have your spouse with you in the US. If yes, you are not compassionate about their situation.
The L2 visa people were able to get EAD, not only because their spouses had good influence, but also because they showed respect to their spouses , who compromised their career, to travel with them to the United States, while they were chasing the dream.
If you do not know the meaning of compromise, and mutual respect, there is no point in running a campaign like this for the welfare of immigrants.
How can you totally ignore the plights, of H4 people, and run a campaign like this for green card. I believe that it is pure selfishness if you do the same. I mean maybe you are not married, or may be you and your lucky spouse, may be the one who didnt have to fight for any H1B lottery while in H4 and to make the tough choice of being with your spouse or losing the career. If being lucky in your life is the reason of making such harsh comment, without even understanding others problem, then I just want to advice that luck is a very tricky thing, and may be you will also face issues in this foreign land for which you might not get any support.
Also, dnt just assume that just because you got your H1, you and your friends outside the US are smarter than the H4 people. Some of us also had an enviable career back home and which is respected through out the world, but made the compromise as we cared about the career of our spouses in the US.
Also I heard people saying in this thread, if H4 people are smart, get H1 and that is the rule and we cannot change it. What about the H1 Lottery? I thought this entire group is for bringing in postive reforms to the current law. If not why dnt we wait for GC for 10 years. That is the house rule and we need to follow it!
With people like you in this group, I feel dissappointed support this cause.
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unitednations
03-21 09:41 PM
this whole issue of undistributed visas has been going on since 2005. It was thoroughly digested/analyzed by many, many people. The discussions had a lot of infighting just like this thread does.
The law hasn't changed; therefore, a different interpretation leaves open possibility of lawsuits.
I read the law to say specifically that if there is more people in que for greencard then hard limit of 7% to anyone country. Until there is less demand for eb1/eb2/eb3 as a whole then hard cap.
2005 and 2006 the number of greencards issued to anyone particular company had 7% total. Last year; particularly the summer, visas were used to overflow to china/india when they shouldn't have because in september eb3 row was retrogressed and so was eb2 row. Under the law; if eb3 row is not current then there can be no overflow of visas.
Most of row has sat idly while the visas have overflowed when they should not have. All it takes is someone from ROW to sue USCIS over this. However; no one does simply because by the time the lawsuit comes; there dates would probably be current and lawsuit would go away.
as an fyi; i don't think anyone has posted but there has been some peoples greencards which were approved in september and october where uscis sent a notice to rescind because the date wasn't current when it got approved. USCIS does have a track record now of rescinding or starting recission procedures if they have made a mistake. If ROW people do make some commotion to ombudsmen, senators, etc.; and oversubscribed countries go over 7% in this fiscal year then we could have some problems.
as an fyi; i am from row (got greencard a year ago) but thought I'd intervene since I was pretty heavily involvded in these discussions about three years ago.
The law hasn't changed; therefore, a different interpretation leaves open possibility of lawsuits.
I read the law to say specifically that if there is more people in que for greencard then hard limit of 7% to anyone country. Until there is less demand for eb1/eb2/eb3 as a whole then hard cap.
2005 and 2006 the number of greencards issued to anyone particular company had 7% total. Last year; particularly the summer, visas were used to overflow to china/india when they shouldn't have because in september eb3 row was retrogressed and so was eb2 row. Under the law; if eb3 row is not current then there can be no overflow of visas.
Most of row has sat idly while the visas have overflowed when they should not have. All it takes is someone from ROW to sue USCIS over this. However; no one does simply because by the time the lawsuit comes; there dates would probably be current and lawsuit would go away.
as an fyi; i don't think anyone has posted but there has been some peoples greencards which were approved in september and october where uscis sent a notice to rescind because the date wasn't current when it got approved. USCIS does have a track record now of rescinding or starting recission procedures if they have made a mistake. If ROW people do make some commotion to ombudsmen, senators, etc.; and oversubscribed countries go over 7% in this fiscal year then we could have some problems.
as an fyi; i am from row (got greencard a year ago) but thought I'd intervene since I was pretty heavily involvded in these discussions about three years ago.
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hebbar77
09-25 10:46 PM
This is my opinion:
They are bunch of people who want to serve all the country and make all the money, with least customer care. So if you got money and dont need any quality of service, go to Fragomen!
They are bunch of people who want to serve all the country and make all the money, with least customer care. So if you got money and dont need any quality of service, go to Fragomen!
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Almond
07-03 07:21 PM
here goes another one........
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tonyHK12
03-28 08:29 PM
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
No its not, this is the 3rd time I've seen you use that and similar signs.
No its not, this is the 3rd time I've seen you use that and similar signs.
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amitjoey
06-14 12:48 PM
Congratulations to everyone whose dates have become current. To all gurus. I wanted to know as to how does it work when it comes to procesing I - 485, what dates are important is it the filing date, or the Priority date? If two people file at same time with different priority dates who gets priority, one with earlier priority date or one with earlier reciept notice date or will the cases be treated at same level.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
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485Mbe4001
07-19 12:24 PM
:) i understand your point and agree a bit, but gandhi wasnt into programming, he would have been sucessful no matter where he went. He had a unique vision, personality etc. we are average people with school going kids (try asking a 10 year old to learn 2 new languages all of a sudden and pass that subject in class) trying to establish ourselves somewhere. i mean if we have to go back we will and we will adjust and succeed.
the only thing that holds us back is...do we want to give up after waiting so long (8yrs in my case) and once we leave, we have effectively lost our position in the GC line...sort of no turning back.
I am in my late 20's and am going to finish my 7th year next month...you decide how many feet of water I am in..:rolleyes: Meanwhile I totally understand your argument that the situation is the most frustrating for people who have been here the longest. I'd say sharpen you swimming skills and then it wouldn't matter how deep the water is or how tall you are....I's say stick with it and endure hardship if you value the end result (GC ofcourse). Even if you decide to go back...whatever your age/experience be...never forget its never too late..Gandhi was 46 years old when he returned to India from SA after spending 22 years there..Still wasn't too late for him to start a revolution now... or was it ?:)
May be you might also want to change your handle...GCby3000 doesn't sound that optimistic
the only thing that holds us back is...do we want to give up after waiting so long (8yrs in my case) and once we leave, we have effectively lost our position in the GC line...sort of no turning back.
I am in my late 20's and am going to finish my 7th year next month...you decide how many feet of water I am in..:rolleyes: Meanwhile I totally understand your argument that the situation is the most frustrating for people who have been here the longest. I'd say sharpen you swimming skills and then it wouldn't matter how deep the water is or how tall you are....I's say stick with it and endure hardship if you value the end result (GC ofcourse). Even if you decide to go back...whatever your age/experience be...never forget its never too late..Gandhi was 46 years old when he returned to India from SA after spending 22 years there..Still wasn't too late for him to start a revolution now... or was it ?:)
May be you might also want to change your handle...GCby3000 doesn't sound that optimistic
walking_dude
10-04 11:18 AM
10/20 is fine with me. Another IV member vs116 has agreed to attend it along with me.
I would prefer - Troy, Rochester, Royal Oak , Sterling Heights, Madison Heights, Utica etc. as long as it's agreeable to the majority. I think we should go by majority of participants.
the problem will be meeting venues and times if we join illinois. we do have ton of H1 people here who are on same boat. Lets try to rally them in.....
I am calling all my friends....
Please keep posting here. Lets target the date 10-20-07. We will meet on that day. We will go over the game plan and decide what comes next.
I live in Sterling heights. Please post where you are at, and once we know all, we will decide a centerpoint for everyone to meet.
I would prefer - Troy, Rochester, Royal Oak , Sterling Heights, Madison Heights, Utica etc. as long as it's agreeable to the majority. I think we should go by majority of participants.
the problem will be meeting venues and times if we join illinois. we do have ton of H1 people here who are on same boat. Lets try to rally them in.....
I am calling all my friends....
Please keep posting here. Lets target the date 10-20-07. We will meet on that day. We will go over the game plan and decide what comes next.
I live in Sterling heights. Please post where you are at, and once we know all, we will decide a centerpoint for everyone to meet.
franklin
12-10 11:47 AM
If existing members don't show the commitment to the meetings or whatever we organize, then how can we expect new members to do anything?
I feel weird even saying this, but guys don't you know that it is simple courtesy to let the host know in advance if you can't make it?
And anything more than 15 minutes late is just plain RUDE! Do we have to teach this?
I hear you, needhelp! I think every single chapter leader has felt this at some point.
I would like to clarify - anything beyond 0 minutes late is rude. I have a management position in my job, and if that happens at a meeting i'd set up professionally, they get a verbal lashing from yours truly.
It is highly disrespectful
I feel weird even saying this, but guys don't you know that it is simple courtesy to let the host know in advance if you can't make it?
And anything more than 15 minutes late is just plain RUDE! Do we have to teach this?
I hear you, needhelp! I think every single chapter leader has felt this at some point.
I would like to clarify - anything beyond 0 minutes late is rude. I have a management position in my job, and if that happens at a meeting i'd set up professionally, they get a verbal lashing from yours truly.
It is highly disrespectful
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