howzatt
12-10 04:32 PM
WOW. What a stupid thread? The OPs anger and frustration might be justified. However, his tone and language used is a bad choice. This is obviously not the first time.
I have said this before; Calling people names or using stupid analogies is not the way to encourage people to volunteer or contribute.
Your method of constantly bashing people and calling people names is unfortunately reflective of the organisation and core team as a whole. Do you even think before you hit the "submit" button? Imagine if a CEO starts making stupid remarks about his employees. Would it have a positive effect or negative effect? How many of the senior members really approve this approach? This approach will only alienate people further.
Amma came out and apologised for her mistake. Will logiclife do the same? I guess he does not have to. I am not sure if he has issued any apologies in the past. If he hasn't, this might be a good time to do it.
OLDMONK makes good points. I expect other senior members to respond by asking me what or how I contributed so far. Just to avoid more posts, I started off contributing but could not motivate myself after having seen numerous stupid posts from different people. Ofcourse, some people will use this behaviour as an excuse to not do anything.
Logiclife's post does nothing good. It only increases the separation between the so called volunteers and bench warmers. People deserve to be treated with respect and that is something he needs to realize.
I have said this before; Calling people names or using stupid analogies is not the way to encourage people to volunteer or contribute.
Your method of constantly bashing people and calling people names is unfortunately reflective of the organisation and core team as a whole. Do you even think before you hit the "submit" button? Imagine if a CEO starts making stupid remarks about his employees. Would it have a positive effect or negative effect? How many of the senior members really approve this approach? This approach will only alienate people further.
Amma came out and apologised for her mistake. Will logiclife do the same? I guess he does not have to. I am not sure if he has issued any apologies in the past. If he hasn't, this might be a good time to do it.
OLDMONK makes good points. I expect other senior members to respond by asking me what or how I contributed so far. Just to avoid more posts, I started off contributing but could not motivate myself after having seen numerous stupid posts from different people. Ofcourse, some people will use this behaviour as an excuse to not do anything.
Logiclife's post does nothing good. It only increases the separation between the so called volunteers and bench warmers. People deserve to be treated with respect and that is something he needs to realize.
kshitijnt
04-11 06:29 PM
Sorry to be rude guys, but if you are a new EB3 India. "post 2005 perm". I would advise you to seek greener pastures in UK or India. I dont see a light at the end of tunnel as things stand today
H4_losing_hope
02-22 04:56 PM
Please join in folks.
paskal
06-23 03:16 PM
That is great and is exactly what the doctor prescribed. Lets try and get the Congressman to make a positive decision. Every call counts!
the 21st district appaers to include san antonio and austin
any hope of someone going to the office for a meeting?
the 21st district appaers to include san antonio and austin
any hope of someone going to the office for a meeting?
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Macaca
09-14 10:06 AM
If constructive thoughts are planted
positive outcomes
will be the result.
Plant the seeds of failure and
failure will follow
Sidney Madwed
positive outcomes
will be the result.
Plant the seeds of failure and
failure will follow
Sidney Madwed
Libra
11-15 11:15 AM
Thanks Jitamitra for your contributions and also join your state chapter to work on our cause.
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mundada
01-12 04:53 PM
Here is the history of derivative acts under 14th amendment related to employement:
14th Amendment of the United States Constitution: guarantees due process and equal protection under the laws.
The Civil Rights Act of 1866, Section 1981: covers race-based discrimination by employers. Individuals may sue to assert their rights under this Act; which, unlike Title VII, has no limitation on back-pay liability.
The Civil rights Act of 1871, Section 1983: provides persons who believe they have been deprived of rights, privileges or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws to redress and holds those responsible for the deprivation liable to the person injured.
Equal Pay Act of 1963: forbids pay differentials based on sex. It covers all employees who come under the Fair Labor Standards Act, plus executive, administrative, professional employees and outside sales people. Investigation and compliance responsibilities were transferred from the Labor Department to the EEOC on July 1, 1979.
Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: bans discrimination in employment because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It covers all terms and conditions of employment; and, it holds employers responsible for any discrimination that goes on within the employer's organization. Title VII is administered by the EEOC and covers employers with 15 or more employees.
Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA): bans employment discrimination because of age against anyone 40 years of age and older, (also know as ADEA). Investigation and compliance responsibilities were transferred from the Labor Department to the EEOC on July 1, 1979.
Executive Order 11246: requires Federal contractors to include a nondiscrimination clause in all contracts and subcontracts in excess of $110.000 and all construction projects financed, even in part, with Federal funds. Revised Order No. 4 requires a written affirmative action program from contractors with 50 or more employees and contracts of $50,000 or more. This order is enforced by the U.S. Department of Labor.
Rehabilitation Act of 1973: Section 503 requires employers with government contracts and subcontracts of $2,500 or more to take affirmative action for qualified handicapped individuals. The regulations implementing the Act require "reasonable accommodation" to the physical and mental limitations of handicapped employees and applicants. Section 504 covers the employment practices of all recipients of Federal financial assistance, a broad spectrum of agencies and institutions from private employers operating under a Federal grant, to public schools, colleges and universities. Both Sections 503 and 504 are enforced by the OFCCP.
Pregnancy Discrimination Act: amends Title VII and states that employment discrimination based on pregnancy, childbirth, and related medical conditions is prohibited under Title VII. According to EEOC, the amendment, which affects those employers under the jurisdiction of Title VII, requires that "persons affected by pregnancy, childbirth, and related medical conditions be treated the same as persons affected by other temporary disabilities."
South Carolina Human Affairs Law: prohibits discrimination based on race, religion, color, age, sex, disability and national origin.
Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA): gives protections to qualified individuals with disabilities that are like those provided under Title VII. It also guarantees equal opportunity in employment, public accommodations, transportation, state/local government services and telecommunication. ADA is enforced by EEOC.
1991 Civl Rights Act of 1991: allows employees to seek compensatory and punitive damages and for trial-by-jury. (this amends Title VII.)
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Now the way I interpret it, the requirement to not discriminate based on place of birth is protected by constitution under 14th amendment.
The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws". The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal" by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.
Furthermore, the precedent rulings related to The Civil Rights Act of 1964 indicate how strictly this is interpreted and enforced. For example, in 1974, the Supreme Court ruled that the San Francisco school district was violating non-English speaking students' rights under the 1964 act by placing them in regular classes rather than providing some sort of accommodation for them.
I therefore believe there is a good chance at the Supreme Court ruling that because of long wait times of more than 3 years for a Green Card plus requirement of same or similar job during that long wait until the green card is received plus country quota affecting people born only in few countries leads to disadvantage for people of these few countries at work.
And yes, even I took law course and gave a seminar during my MBA. But even you would concur that this course at best is basic and does not make a person authority of the US legal system.
Finally, forget me or you, even a lawyer cannot say for sure what the final ruling will be in any case. And hence the best a person can do is give an educated opinion. In addition by human nature, the way I would interpret laws would be to my advantage while the way you would interpret them would be to your advantage. And hence I can understand your biases (and mine as well) because in case the country quota is found illegal by the US Supreme Court, it is the ROW that is going to be affected the most.
Don't want to pick on anyone one or anything.. just case-in-point to what I posted earlier.. here we have intense legal debates, and legal opinions with people who can not distinguish between Title VII and EEO which are legislative laws and between the constitution. These laws are not part of the constitution and they include provisions for federal and local governments and their agencies to override parts of rules if they deem necessary.
14th Amendment of the United States Constitution: guarantees due process and equal protection under the laws.
The Civil Rights Act of 1866, Section 1981: covers race-based discrimination by employers. Individuals may sue to assert their rights under this Act; which, unlike Title VII, has no limitation on back-pay liability.
The Civil rights Act of 1871, Section 1983: provides persons who believe they have been deprived of rights, privileges or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws to redress and holds those responsible for the deprivation liable to the person injured.
Equal Pay Act of 1963: forbids pay differentials based on sex. It covers all employees who come under the Fair Labor Standards Act, plus executive, administrative, professional employees and outside sales people. Investigation and compliance responsibilities were transferred from the Labor Department to the EEOC on July 1, 1979.
Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: bans discrimination in employment because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It covers all terms and conditions of employment; and, it holds employers responsible for any discrimination that goes on within the employer's organization. Title VII is administered by the EEOC and covers employers with 15 or more employees.
Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA): bans employment discrimination because of age against anyone 40 years of age and older, (also know as ADEA). Investigation and compliance responsibilities were transferred from the Labor Department to the EEOC on July 1, 1979.
Executive Order 11246: requires Federal contractors to include a nondiscrimination clause in all contracts and subcontracts in excess of $110.000 and all construction projects financed, even in part, with Federal funds. Revised Order No. 4 requires a written affirmative action program from contractors with 50 or more employees and contracts of $50,000 or more. This order is enforced by the U.S. Department of Labor.
Rehabilitation Act of 1973: Section 503 requires employers with government contracts and subcontracts of $2,500 or more to take affirmative action for qualified handicapped individuals. The regulations implementing the Act require "reasonable accommodation" to the physical and mental limitations of handicapped employees and applicants. Section 504 covers the employment practices of all recipients of Federal financial assistance, a broad spectrum of agencies and institutions from private employers operating under a Federal grant, to public schools, colleges and universities. Both Sections 503 and 504 are enforced by the OFCCP.
Pregnancy Discrimination Act: amends Title VII and states that employment discrimination based on pregnancy, childbirth, and related medical conditions is prohibited under Title VII. According to EEOC, the amendment, which affects those employers under the jurisdiction of Title VII, requires that "persons affected by pregnancy, childbirth, and related medical conditions be treated the same as persons affected by other temporary disabilities."
South Carolina Human Affairs Law: prohibits discrimination based on race, religion, color, age, sex, disability and national origin.
Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA): gives protections to qualified individuals with disabilities that are like those provided under Title VII. It also guarantees equal opportunity in employment, public accommodations, transportation, state/local government services and telecommunication. ADA is enforced by EEOC.
1991 Civl Rights Act of 1991: allows employees to seek compensatory and punitive damages and for trial-by-jury. (this amends Title VII.)
=====
Now the way I interpret it, the requirement to not discriminate based on place of birth is protected by constitution under 14th amendment.
The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws". The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal" by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.
Furthermore, the precedent rulings related to The Civil Rights Act of 1964 indicate how strictly this is interpreted and enforced. For example, in 1974, the Supreme Court ruled that the San Francisco school district was violating non-English speaking students' rights under the 1964 act by placing them in regular classes rather than providing some sort of accommodation for them.
I therefore believe there is a good chance at the Supreme Court ruling that because of long wait times of more than 3 years for a Green Card plus requirement of same or similar job during that long wait until the green card is received plus country quota affecting people born only in few countries leads to disadvantage for people of these few countries at work.
And yes, even I took law course and gave a seminar during my MBA. But even you would concur that this course at best is basic and does not make a person authority of the US legal system.
Finally, forget me or you, even a lawyer cannot say for sure what the final ruling will be in any case. And hence the best a person can do is give an educated opinion. In addition by human nature, the way I would interpret laws would be to my advantage while the way you would interpret them would be to your advantage. And hence I can understand your biases (and mine as well) because in case the country quota is found illegal by the US Supreme Court, it is the ROW that is going to be affected the most.
Don't want to pick on anyone one or anything.. just case-in-point to what I posted earlier.. here we have intense legal debates, and legal opinions with people who can not distinguish between Title VII and EEO which are legislative laws and between the constitution. These laws are not part of the constitution and they include provisions for federal and local governments and their agencies to override parts of rules if they deem necessary.
cagedcactus
10-10 09:51 AM
great then, we welcome you to the group.
Lets collect as many as possible, then we can do a final count.
It seems that if we are in ballpark of 20, we will meet at the community center. With grace, if we are more, we can modify the place a bit.
I am glad to see the responses.... lets spread the words...... bring co workers and friends whoare stuck too....
Lets collect as many as possible, then we can do a final count.
It seems that if we are in ballpark of 20, we will meet at the community center. With grace, if we are more, we can modify the place a bit.
I am glad to see the responses.... lets spread the words...... bring co workers and friends whoare stuck too....
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newfoundland
08-04 05:35 PM
They are worse.. they do not respond quickly, never let you talk to attorneys directly.. have to go through the secretaries and to top all this they mess up the applications.. in short they suck!
I agree.
Murthy law firm is a big No, NO.
I agree.
Murthy law firm is a big No, NO.
swaroopmukka
07-18 10:39 AM
Hello,
I'm also in the same situation. My labor is approved May 2007. I'll need to apply for both 140 and 485 together. Can I do it at the same time ?? or do I need to file my 140 immediately and then 485 after a few days. Time is running out now, as we never know when USCIS would again stop accepting 485s. Please advice.
Thanks
I'm also in the same situation. My labor is approved May 2007. I'll need to apply for both 140 and 485 together. Can I do it at the same time ?? or do I need to file my 140 immediately and then 485 after a few days. Time is running out now, as we never know when USCIS would again stop accepting 485s. Please advice.
Thanks
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dixie
02-13 11:11 PM
This "anand" guy is a psuedonym for a Kim Berry crony for all we know.Old timers will notice that his distracting messages bear a striking resemblance to the folks who attacked IV core on the day of their CIR success. Such folks are not worthy of a personal response from IV core members - their time is too valuable for that. Hell, Roy Beck and Lou Foulmouth don't care to respond to our emails, do they ?
abhijitp
02-18 01:19 PM
Impossible to catch up with you:)
But NORCAL did collect 92 over the last weekend. I collected 40 of those (takes me to 197), the reason to mention this is, it is way too easy for anyone to do this, and people better had strong reasons to not do it!
But NORCAL did collect 92 over the last weekend. I collected 40 of those (takes me to 197), the reason to mention this is, it is way too easy for anyone to do this, and people better had strong reasons to not do it!
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cagedcactus
10-22 10:19 AM
yes it was very encouraging to see all the confirmed and some more showed up...
We could clearly see that all the members were upbeat and ready to go...
WD, many thanks for the information and material you prepared for the meeting. You are clearly our technical and knowledge source leader....
We will continue with the game plan... as you noted down step by step.
Our first goal now is to have a phone meeting with leaders where we can gather up some training material, and discussion points.
We also need some information on how to approach the senators locally, and set up meetings... what should be brought up in the meeting and what should be avoided... etc...
I appreciate all those who came, and also those who wanted to come but couldnt due to some legit reasons....
Our first meeting was a huge step. Others need to see this, and start participating in the local drive.... we dont need your money here, you can continue contributing to IV .... we just need your time and help so we can do this together..... we can defeat this monster together....
Rise Michigan.... rise now.... we do this now.... or never..... for the sake of your family, friends, fellow countrymen, and all those who are affected due to these unfair backlogs....
We could clearly see that all the members were upbeat and ready to go...
WD, many thanks for the information and material you prepared for the meeting. You are clearly our technical and knowledge source leader....
We will continue with the game plan... as you noted down step by step.
Our first goal now is to have a phone meeting with leaders where we can gather up some training material, and discussion points.
We also need some information on how to approach the senators locally, and set up meetings... what should be brought up in the meeting and what should be avoided... etc...
I appreciate all those who came, and also those who wanted to come but couldnt due to some legit reasons....
Our first meeting was a huge step. Others need to see this, and start participating in the local drive.... we dont need your money here, you can continue contributing to IV .... we just need your time and help so we can do this together..... we can defeat this monster together....
Rise Michigan.... rise now.... we do this now.... or never..... for the sake of your family, friends, fellow countrymen, and all those who are affected due to these unfair backlogs....
Marphad
12-03 03:31 PM
Ok..I know I should read thru the older posts, but didnt get a sense of what is required in my case, so I am posting the question online.
My wife was on her independent H1B. she travelled out side the country and was readmitted on H1b. After that she turned in her 2 weeks notice and has started working for another company on her EAD.
We have not applied for our AP previously.
My question is this:
In Part 1 , Q3
Class of Addmission
Should she put H1B (last admitted as)
or would it be Adjustment of Status (since she is using EAD)
Also, what kind of supporting documents need to be sent?
I-485 copy
EAD Copy ( yes/ no)
I-94 H1B issued at POE (yes/no)
2 passport sized photographs?
anything else?
Class of admission is last admission on port. That should be H1B.
My wife was on her independent H1B. she travelled out side the country and was readmitted on H1b. After that she turned in her 2 weeks notice and has started working for another company on her EAD.
We have not applied for our AP previously.
My question is this:
In Part 1 , Q3
Class of Addmission
Should she put H1B (last admitted as)
or would it be Adjustment of Status (since she is using EAD)
Also, what kind of supporting documents need to be sent?
I-485 copy
EAD Copy ( yes/ no)
I-94 H1B issued at POE (yes/no)
2 passport sized photographs?
anything else?
Class of admission is last admission on port. That should be H1B.
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jchan
02-13 03:54 PM
Dear jchan,
We are very interested in this provision. Immigration Voice has heavily invested in this measure, both, legislatively and administrative. We have consistenly advocated for this provision which we believe will curb arm twisting by bad employers, that are like few bad apples in the big basket. Such a provision will help everyone including USCIS, lawyers, genuine companies, and direct+indirect beneficiary. Its a win-win for all.
.
Dear Admin, appreciate your reply. Is there any action items we can follow? I can start by creating a petition letter addressed to the secretary of DHS.
We are very interested in this provision. Immigration Voice has heavily invested in this measure, both, legislatively and administrative. We have consistenly advocated for this provision which we believe will curb arm twisting by bad employers, that are like few bad apples in the big basket. Such a provision will help everyone including USCIS, lawyers, genuine companies, and direct+indirect beneficiary. Its a win-win for all.
.
Dear Admin, appreciate your reply. Is there any action items we can follow? I can start by creating a petition letter addressed to the secretary of DHS.
yvjoshi100
03-05 12:49 PM
You can count me for contribution.
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tikka
06-13 08:23 PM
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for your contribution:)
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for your contribution:)
go_guy123
02-12 05:09 PM
Yes, I agree...we need some sort of intelligent Non -Cooperation Movement...
But I am afraid when we cannot stand united on this group- with only 200-400 or so of the 9000 contributing, I am not even sure what kind of Non Cooperation will work here.
We need to get United,,, that is the need of the hour..
Its actually the strategy that is wrong. The numbersusa
, zazzona etc is also a very small group but they use
right strategy.
At one hand you support H1b increase and also want greencard reform.
Those are contradictory things. Unless IV starts working against further
H1B incease , then only Corp America will start working on EB reform.
actually thats the reason I like unitednations. Whats he says is very true
(yes not very pleasant)
But I am afraid when we cannot stand united on this group- with only 200-400 or so of the 9000 contributing, I am not even sure what kind of Non Cooperation will work here.
We need to get United,,, that is the need of the hour..
Its actually the strategy that is wrong. The numbersusa
, zazzona etc is also a very small group but they use
right strategy.
At one hand you support H1b increase and also want greencard reform.
Those are contradictory things. Unless IV starts working against further
H1B incease , then only Corp America will start working on EB reform.
actually thats the reason I like unitednations. Whats he says is very true
(yes not very pleasant)
ivx
05-21 05:26 PM
100$ through Paypal
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Way to go Sugaur. Thanks you all for the effort.
Transaction ID: 3TU45415NE853021P
Way to go Sugaur. Thanks you all for the effort.
chanduv23
09-21 04:43 PM
I would say - lets not discuss these anymore. For a lot of people - this could be an eye opener.
We will get more people now, so lets not continue this thread
We will get more people now, so lets not continue this thread
bluekayal
06-30 05:18 PM
I had a 2004 PD Labor RIR and my 2006 I-140 used that labor date, because I merely mentioned to an IO at TSC that I had a previously filed labor. My lawyer was shocked when it happened...had never seen it.
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
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