walking_dude
09-20 12:41 PM
While we are at discussing participation, a question I heard at DC comes to my mind. A member ( anil_sap?) asked another Texan member ( forgot name) - 'What takes you to become an Active member?'. To which my friend answered - 'Isn't he active alredy. He is here'.
That made me think - is being active a nebulous concept. Who's is the real active member of IV? The Core and near-core that strategize, plan , co-ordinate and conduct the business? The guys subscribed to monthly payment but missed DC? Guys who were at DC but not monthly contributors? Guys who were there all 4 days? Guys who visited for a day? "Lunch-Break" agitators? Who is 'active' among these will depend on whom you ask!
The following portion is in humor. Don't take it in bad spirit.
I did a self-evaluation, and guess-what, I realized I was a different breed. A 'Know-Nothing' IV member!
Being a IV member
1) Do I know why was such a mass mobilization done on that particular day? Is it because there was a push for STRIVE act as speculated in the forums here? Or is it SKIL we are pushing?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
2) What is the criteria for getting selected for Lawmaker meetings? Why weren't some selected after following the USCIS-inspired process? ( inspired by Marks skit)
Step 1 : Submit Labor petition E-IV-LOBBYDAY ( twice)
Step 2 : Verification by Labor department (or is it Name check)
Step 3 : Receipt Notice ( Talking Points)
Step 4 : Waiting...
Step 5 : Followup with RO (Rally Officer). You are still under Processing Time
Step 6 : Waiting...
Step 7 : More followup..
Step 8 : Retrogression due to insufficient (visa) numbers
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
3) Didn't some members from my state attend Lawmakers meetings? What was the result? Where they positive or negative about our cause? What should we do to followup with them?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
4) What does it takes to become an 'Active' member as defined by Anil? What will take for IV to trust a member enough to let him know of the purported plan for World-Domination? Or should we just remain content gossiping (with near-core members) and making our own guesses?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
5) Does my State chapter even exist as of today? Or is it an IV version of Flying Sphaggeti Monster, that we should worship without questioning?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
With so many 'KNOW NOTHINGS' to my credit, I feel like the member of a secret American political party in the time of the Whigs.
That made me think - is being active a nebulous concept. Who's is the real active member of IV? The Core and near-core that strategize, plan , co-ordinate and conduct the business? The guys subscribed to monthly payment but missed DC? Guys who were at DC but not monthly contributors? Guys who were there all 4 days? Guys who visited for a day? "Lunch-Break" agitators? Who is 'active' among these will depend on whom you ask!
The following portion is in humor. Don't take it in bad spirit.
I did a self-evaluation, and guess-what, I realized I was a different breed. A 'Know-Nothing' IV member!
Being a IV member
1) Do I know why was such a mass mobilization done on that particular day? Is it because there was a push for STRIVE act as speculated in the forums here? Or is it SKIL we are pushing?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
2) What is the criteria for getting selected for Lawmaker meetings? Why weren't some selected after following the USCIS-inspired process? ( inspired by Marks skit)
Step 1 : Submit Labor petition E-IV-LOBBYDAY ( twice)
Step 2 : Verification by Labor department (or is it Name check)
Step 3 : Receipt Notice ( Talking Points)
Step 4 : Waiting...
Step 5 : Followup with RO (Rally Officer). You are still under Processing Time
Step 6 : Waiting...
Step 7 : More followup..
Step 8 : Retrogression due to insufficient (visa) numbers
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
3) Didn't some members from my state attend Lawmakers meetings? What was the result? Where they positive or negative about our cause? What should we do to followup with them?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
4) What does it takes to become an 'Active' member as defined by Anil? What will take for IV to trust a member enough to let him know of the purported plan for World-Domination? Or should we just remain content gossiping (with near-core members) and making our own guesses?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
5) Does my State chapter even exist as of today? Or is it an IV version of Flying Sphaggeti Monster, that we should worship without questioning?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
With so many 'KNOW NOTHINGS' to my credit, I feel like the member of a secret American political party in the time of the Whigs.
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ash0210
02-12 05:38 PM
Couple of days back, I do differed with IV objective to persue only filing of I-485 by Feb 15. Also, one gentleman from this forum asked me to quit IV...
I am of the opinion that "Difference of opinion" to achieve goal is OK but not to loose UNITY...
I did not quit IV but today contributed IV because I beleive IV is fighting for Immigration issues/cause..
Amen...!!
All your questions about Immigration Voice�s funds and financial disclosure are answered here:
Youtube:
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Same thing on Yahoo if the link above does not work:
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Thanks for listening.
I am of the opinion that "Difference of opinion" to achieve goal is OK but not to loose UNITY...
I did not quit IV but today contributed IV because I beleive IV is fighting for Immigration issues/cause..
Amen...!!
All your questions about Immigration Voice�s funds and financial disclosure are answered here:
Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuvN1GFUVw
Same thing on Yahoo if the link above does not work:
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=f6b1eb0d95421b683e7fabcd5d6f2ef3.1863489
Thanks for listening.
admin
03-17 03:51 PM
Hi,
Based on the summary if you re-look at the student visa section of Bill Frist's bill
`(2) STUDENT VISAS- Notwithstanding the requirement under paragraph (1)(C), an alien may file an application for adjustment of status under this section if--
`(A) the alien has been issued a visa or otherwise provided nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv), or would have qualified for such nonimmigrant status if section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv) had been enacted before such alien's graduation;
`(B) the alien has earned an advanced degree in the sciences, technology, engineering, or mathematics;
`(C) the alien is the beneficiary of a petition filed under subparagraph (E) or (F) of section 204(a)(1); and
`(D) a fee of $1,000 is remitted to the Secretary on behalf of the alien.
`(3) LIMITATION- An application for adjustment of status filed under this section may not be approved until an immigrant visa number becomes available.'.
What this really means is a masters student can adjust to immigrant visa status although his visa application will get approved only when the visa is available. If i have understood this correctly this means that this is similar to the S-1932 provision wherein you can adjust your status although approval will happen only when immigrant visa is available.(provided one is masters)
Or have i got this wrong?
Comments? If i am interpreting this correctly it is another big boost for people who have either not worked 3 yrs as yet on H1B or have a masters degree unrelated to the profession they are working in.
piyushpan,
Exactly my reactions too. In the section by section analysis posted on Frist's website - http://frist.senate.gov/_files/031706section.pdf it does look like it is only for those who did their masters in the US though. So I-485 and consequently EAD will not be a problem for those of you.
However if you do not have 3 years of experience in a related field, you will be subject to the quota and hence you will have to wait for the priority date to become current to get you I-485 approved though.
Based on the summary if you re-look at the student visa section of Bill Frist's bill
`(2) STUDENT VISAS- Notwithstanding the requirement under paragraph (1)(C), an alien may file an application for adjustment of status under this section if--
`(A) the alien has been issued a visa or otherwise provided nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv), or would have qualified for such nonimmigrant status if section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv) had been enacted before such alien's graduation;
`(B) the alien has earned an advanced degree in the sciences, technology, engineering, or mathematics;
`(C) the alien is the beneficiary of a petition filed under subparagraph (E) or (F) of section 204(a)(1); and
`(D) a fee of $1,000 is remitted to the Secretary on behalf of the alien.
`(3) LIMITATION- An application for adjustment of status filed under this section may not be approved until an immigrant visa number becomes available.'.
What this really means is a masters student can adjust to immigrant visa status although his visa application will get approved only when the visa is available. If i have understood this correctly this means that this is similar to the S-1932 provision wherein you can adjust your status although approval will happen only when immigrant visa is available.(provided one is masters)
Or have i got this wrong?
Comments? If i am interpreting this correctly it is another big boost for people who have either not worked 3 yrs as yet on H1B or have a masters degree unrelated to the profession they are working in.
piyushpan,
Exactly my reactions too. In the section by section analysis posted on Frist's website - http://frist.senate.gov/_files/031706section.pdf it does look like it is only for those who did their masters in the US though. So I-485 and consequently EAD will not be a problem for those of you.
However if you do not have 3 years of experience in a related field, you will be subject to the quota and hence you will have to wait for the priority date to become current to get you I-485 approved though.
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gapala
03-05 08:23 PM
$5000 shouldn't be a big deal for a quarter million community who's seeking some information on this...I guess either IV should start and campaign and collect money for this or we can saperately collect money for this..
Sounds great!
Where did you get this number from? :D:D:D:D
May be you had a cartesian join :))
Sounds great!
Where did you get this number from? :D:D:D:D
May be you had a cartesian join :))
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eastindia
01-13 11:14 AM
I see a lot of boiling blood and nice thoughts, If we can find out How much it would cost to pull out a Half page or Full Page AD on prominent news paper like NY Times or WSJ etc. Work on and create a fullpage/half page ad that would be a good start in opening eyes of congress/common people.
Any thoughts.
Read
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26moveon.html?_r=1
Full page is for $65000 in section A New York Times.
If you want for specific day, it is for $142,083
Now, How much do you want to contribute to this amount?
People on this thread think this is some joke. By pledging 1K you cannot even get a mosquito out of country cap. You need million dollar first to start.
Any thoughts.
Read
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26moveon.html?_r=1
Full page is for $65000 in section A New York Times.
If you want for specific day, it is for $142,083
Now, How much do you want to contribute to this amount?
People on this thread think this is some joke. By pledging 1K you cannot even get a mosquito out of country cap. You need million dollar first to start.
prashantkh
07-17 04:17 PM
Do you guys think its worthwhile to go back instead of trying waiting for the retrogression to end. From the looks of it, i doubt there is any chance of an immigration bill before the elections. if there is no bill then we will end up waiting for 8-10 years for the dates to be current.
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
Another perspective is that if people with Masters or higher degree are exempted from the EB quota, it will in fact help in moving the priority dates current, since there are lot of people in wait who already have advanced degree from US universities and won't be using up the visa from the EB quota.
PK
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
Another perspective is that if people with Masters or higher degree are exempted from the EB quota, it will in fact help in moving the priority dates current, since there are lot of people in wait who already have advanced degree from US universities and won't be using up the visa from the EB quota.
PK
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natrajs
09-04 12:44 PM
We are not asking for any special rights or entitlement. We are not doing anthing illegal. We are just petitioning the government to treat us - fairly - in the spirit of the founding charter of this nation, Declaration of Independence - That all men are created equal, and deserve equal chances in the Pursuit of Happiness.
No one can harm us for rallying to our cause. Our actions are protected by the First ammendment which gives Freedom of Speech and Expression to even the non-citizens.
Will be there in DC
No one can harm us for rallying to our cause. Our actions are protected by the First ammendment which gives Freedom of Speech and Expression to even the non-citizens.
Will be there in DC
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needhelp!
05-01 04:39 AM
Thanks amit_sp & gova123 & psvk & xlr8r & 65B4GC & asanghi & GCneeded & tampa2006 & gnlbigte
We have a very long way to go/ So far less than 100 members have contributed. less than 0.4% of our membership... its time to come together now and show our strength!
Contributions in any amount can be made through PayPay to donations@immigrationvoice.org
We have a very long way to go/ So far less than 100 members have contributed. less than 0.4% of our membership... its time to come together now and show our strength!
Contributions in any amount can be made through PayPay to donations@immigrationvoice.org
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Eternal_Hope
06-13 10:09 PM
excuse my unfamiliarity with the process..
but if I applied for I485 in July, and 485 applications they receive exceeds the visa numbers available for July, what happens? Do they draw lottery to see which 485 apps would be cosidered?
in other words, just making sure the app reaches USCIS in july first wekk, does it guarantee EAD for spouses?
I have the same question - Do dependent spouses get EAD even if dates retrogress after applying for I-485?
but if I applied for I485 in July, and 485 applications they receive exceeds the visa numbers available for July, what happens? Do they draw lottery to see which 485 apps would be cosidered?
in other words, just making sure the app reaches USCIS in july first wekk, does it guarantee EAD for spouses?
I have the same question - Do dependent spouses get EAD even if dates retrogress after applying for I-485?
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mannubhai
05-21 02:27 PM
Did that yesterday. Do we need to mention it here in order to get it accounted for?
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GCBy3000
12-01 11:19 AM
What is the use of double masters and MBA from Harvard/Kellogs if you cannot get promoted. With all those degree on hand, you will still end up doing what you were doing at the time you filed for your labor.
Thinking about these options are good if and only you are sure that you will have your GC when you complete your studies. MBA is worst as it will have negative impact on your career if you continue to do what you were doing even after your MBA completion. Down the line when you get GC, you cannot substantiate your motive for MBA which is really going to HURT your carrer. MS is lot better then MBA.
If you are really interested in MBA, do prepare for GMAT / TOEFL , take the exams and keep your scores ready. Start doing some volunteer job / community work. Volunteer / non-profit work / community work will add some value to your resume to show your leadership skills.
DONT DO THE MISTAKE OF DOING MBA IF YOU ARE NOT SURE TO GET YOUR GC BY THE TIME YOU COMPLETE IT. IF YOU DONT GET IT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO KICK THE US CAREER AND TO GO WHEREVER YOU RE EMBRACED FOR YOUR SKILLS/EDUCATION.
I agree. I realized that I was paying too much for my MBA from a top 15 school and I decided to put on hold for that exactly same reason. I received job offers from employers which were willing to pay 100% of the MBA. Of course I had to decline due to my status.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
Thinking about these options are good if and only you are sure that you will have your GC when you complete your studies. MBA is worst as it will have negative impact on your career if you continue to do what you were doing even after your MBA completion. Down the line when you get GC, you cannot substantiate your motive for MBA which is really going to HURT your carrer. MS is lot better then MBA.
If you are really interested in MBA, do prepare for GMAT / TOEFL , take the exams and keep your scores ready. Start doing some volunteer job / community work. Volunteer / non-profit work / community work will add some value to your resume to show your leadership skills.
DONT DO THE MISTAKE OF DOING MBA IF YOU ARE NOT SURE TO GET YOUR GC BY THE TIME YOU COMPLETE IT. IF YOU DONT GET IT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO KICK THE US CAREER AND TO GO WHEREVER YOU RE EMBRACED FOR YOUR SKILLS/EDUCATION.
I agree. I realized that I was paying too much for my MBA from a top 15 school and I decided to put on hold for that exactly same reason. I received job offers from employers which were willing to pay 100% of the MBA. Of course I had to decline due to my status.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
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houston2005
06-10 09:36 AM
Senator Hilary Clinton introduced an amendment to exempt apllicant's dependents from visa quotos, which will reduce the retrogression signifcantly, why Core choose the Coryn's not supporting Hilary Clinton's? She is very likly to be our future president.
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
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04-25 06:57 PM
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JazzByTheBay
09-21 09:52 AM
I am not indian, I am chinese, and I attended the rally in DC. I am so touched by you brave indian people. while I feel such a shame that we only had much less chinese there. part of the reason is that IV is originally indian club. we got the message but kind of lack the close organization.
Thanks for coming Elle - highly appreciated!
IV is not intended to be an Indian club. You can help change that by encouraging more Chinese and other affected non-Indians to participate actively.
Nevertheless, Indians do seem to be in the majority from those who are severely affected by legal immigration issues and are active. IV's membership demographics reflects that.
If you have any thoughts on how to encourage more folks from your community or other non-Indians to participate please feel free to share here or PM me.
4. we really need to study the illegal immigrant rally last time, how successful they were !!!!
Any thoughts on that? Have you talked to any folks involved with such rallies?
Thanks for coming Elle - highly appreciated!
IV is not intended to be an Indian club. You can help change that by encouraging more Chinese and other affected non-Indians to participate actively.
Nevertheless, Indians do seem to be in the majority from those who are severely affected by legal immigration issues and are active. IV's membership demographics reflects that.
If you have any thoughts on how to encourage more folks from your community or other non-Indians to participate please feel free to share here or PM me.
4. we really need to study the illegal immigrant rally last time, how successful they were !!!!
Any thoughts on that? Have you talked to any folks involved with such rallies?
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06-22 11:33 AM
Just imagine this, you spend 6 months training an international grad, spend $5000 - $7000 per H1B and after 1 - 2 yrs, you will have to start all over again. After a couple of months, the "new hire" will just be angry at you (just look at all the people on this forum who curse bodyshoppers - and just to clarify - I am not implying that the company you start will be a bodyshopping firm) and he will quit your company and join someone else. And you will have to start the process all over again. The guy who you hired on H1B will be now join someone else and depending on your business, you will be left high and dry.
I know this because the very first job I joined, the philosophy at the company was to hire fresh grads (the "get them cheap" works for American Grads too). My boss used to tell me "we can get two for the price of one". The year I got hired, the company recruited 15 new grads (a new "Product Development" dept. was being started) - and I was the only H1B. After 14 months, when the business started picking up, the company did not even bother to raise our pay or even recogonize us. Guess what happened? Over a period of 2 months, 12 of us quit for better jobs. Guess who now had to look for 12 people and at the sametime deliver the product to the clients on time?
If I understand your argument then you can conclude that: faster EB GC processing will decrease wage supression.
However, Kim Berry (in One Easy Fix For Immigration (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070620_915353.htm)) is saying that faster EB GC procesing will increase wage supression.
Please rephrase the above and blog it at One Easy Fix For Immigration (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070620_915353.htm). Thanks!
I know this because the very first job I joined, the philosophy at the company was to hire fresh grads (the "get them cheap" works for American Grads too). My boss used to tell me "we can get two for the price of one". The year I got hired, the company recruited 15 new grads (a new "Product Development" dept. was being started) - and I was the only H1B. After 14 months, when the business started picking up, the company did not even bother to raise our pay or even recogonize us. Guess what happened? Over a period of 2 months, 12 of us quit for better jobs. Guess who now had to look for 12 people and at the sametime deliver the product to the clients on time?
If I understand your argument then you can conclude that: faster EB GC processing will decrease wage supression.
However, Kim Berry (in One Easy Fix For Immigration (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070620_915353.htm)) is saying that faster EB GC procesing will increase wage supression.
Please rephrase the above and blog it at One Easy Fix For Immigration (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070620_915353.htm). Thanks!
sumagiri
07-15 06:07 PM
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
There are some significant flaws in your analysis. If you correct them, the number comes to around 25K.
First. The family spill over has to be applied to all categories. So the total number is 140,000 + 19,000.
Second. You calculated EB1/2/3 gets 1/3 which is not correct. They use only 28.6% not 33.3% This makes difference.
Third. The EB1+EB2 combined 70K already counted 9,800 visas for India. We should not add them again.
According to USCIS/DOS testimonies they will usually end up using only 95% of total quota. They go conservatively because they must ensure that they won't use up even a single visa more than what law allows.So total available is approximately 159000*.95 = 151050
Third. EB1, EB2, EB3 each will get 28.6%. Not one third (33.3%). That makes lot of difference. So each category will get around 43,200.
EB4 and EB5 combined will get around 21,449
Now again, going by statistics and your assumptions that EB1 and EB2 takes up 70K and EB4, EB5 takes up around 10K. The unused visas are
((43,200*2)+21,449) - (70,000+10000) = 27849.
So the total EB2 visa usage will be around 70K + 25K =95K.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
There are some significant flaws in your analysis. If you correct them, the number comes to around 25K.
First. The family spill over has to be applied to all categories. So the total number is 140,000 + 19,000.
Second. You calculated EB1/2/3 gets 1/3 which is not correct. They use only 28.6% not 33.3% This makes difference.
Third. The EB1+EB2 combined 70K already counted 9,800 visas for India. We should not add them again.
According to USCIS/DOS testimonies they will usually end up using only 95% of total quota. They go conservatively because they must ensure that they won't use up even a single visa more than what law allows.So total available is approximately 159000*.95 = 151050
Third. EB1, EB2, EB3 each will get 28.6%. Not one third (33.3%). That makes lot of difference. So each category will get around 43,200.
EB4 and EB5 combined will get around 21,449
Now again, going by statistics and your assumptions that EB1 and EB2 takes up 70K and EB4, EB5 takes up around 10K. The unused visas are
((43,200*2)+21,449) - (70,000+10000) = 27849.
So the total EB2 visa usage will be around 70K + 25K =95K.
greendream
07-21 08:40 AM
Hi Ron,
First of thank you for all your useful replies. I just want your opinion to convert my EB3 India to EB2.
My details.
PD: June -2003.
Country: India.
Also when can my PD will be current in future. Please suggest.
Appreciate your help.
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I think it would be a good idea to make the move. There isn't enough data available for me to say anything more than it's going to be quite a while before your priority date becomes current.
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Ron Gotcher.
First of thank you for all your useful replies. I just want your opinion to convert my EB3 India to EB2.
My details.
PD: June -2003.
Country: India.
Also when can my PD will be current in future. Please suggest.
Appreciate your help.
**************************************
I think it would be a good idea to make the move. There isn't enough data available for me to say anything more than it's going to be quite a while before your priority date becomes current.
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Ron Gotcher.
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